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Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 47	Posted - 2016.02.16 19:49:38 - [1] - Quote How much real world money would it take to get Mastery 5 in any ship of your choice for a brand new character? I see a plex is on Jita now for 1.228b. If you like you can assume a more classic amount as recent fluctuations have sent it high... say 750m? A plex costs US$19.99... US$17.50 if you buy 28. Mastery 5 in a Merlin is; Hull Upgrades 5 Mechanics 5 CPU Management 5 Gravimetric Sensor Compensation 5 Long Range Targeting 5 Signature Analysis 5 Target Management 5 Capacitor Management 5 Capacitor Systems Operation 5 Electronics Upgrades 5 Energy Grid Upgrades 5 Power Grid Management 5 Science 1 Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5 Gunnery 5 Weapon Upgrades 5 Acceleration Control 5 Afterburner 5 Evasive Maneuvering 5 Fuel Conservation 5 High Speed Maneuvering 5 Navigation 5 Spaceship Command 5 Warp Drive Operation 5 EM Shield Compensation 5 Energy Grid Upgrades 5 Explosive Shield Compensation 5 Kinetic Shield Compensation 5 Power Grid Management 3 Shield Compensation 5 Shield Management 5 Shield Operation 5 Shield Upgrades 5 Tactical Shield Manipulation 4 Thermal Shield Compensation 5 Controlled Bursts 5 Motion Prediction 5 Rapid Firing 5 Sharpshooter 5 Small Blaster Specialization 5 Small Hybrid Turret 5 Small Railgun Specialization 5 Surgical strike 5 Trajectory Analysis 5 Propulsion Jamming 5 That's 29,236,260sp. Average starting sp is 406,094sp. Net 28,830,166sp. The payout goes like this: < 5 million total skill points = 500,000 skill points per injector 5 million GÇô 50 million total skill points = 400,000 skill points per injector Last I checked, you could get an injector for 750m. So you need 10 to get to 5M sp. You need 60 more to get to 29M sp. 70 injectors. At 1.228b isk per plex, 750m isk per injector, you'll need 43 plex. US$754.74 for Master 5 Merlin. Spare change to buy the ship and modules... Anyone want to work out Mastery 5 Tengu? :)
Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 47	Posted - 2016.02.16 19:52:28 - [2] - Quote Forgot Caldari Frigate 5. 621,837 more sp... probably 1 more injector.
Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 47	Posted - 2016.02.16 20:07:37 - [3] - Quote FarosWarrior wrote: 95% of these skills are usefull in EVERY OTHER SHIP IN EVE. Well the following are useful in about only 25% of the ships; Gravimetric Sensor Compensation 5 Small Blaster Specialization 5 Small Hybrid Turret 5 Small Railgun Specialization 5 Skilling into a Harpy at Mastery 5 costs another 1,243,675sp - 3 to 4 more injectors, say 3 plex US$55 or thereabouts. Harpy only adds Assault Frigate 5 really. No drones, no missiles, no armor tank yet. No specials like cov ops or scanning either.
Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 47	Posted - 2016.02.16 20:15:06 - [4] - Quote So for US$1000, you could easily be in racial Assault Frigate of your choice for Mastery 5 with enough left over to buy a couple dozen fits. Little ship. Basic PVP. Apply this approach to a Dominix, you'll likely need over double that. Gallente Batleship 5 is 2.4M sp alone, plus drones.1.6M per racial drone specialty, frex
Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 47	Posted - 2016.02.16 20:19:21 - [5] - Quote Fa Xian wrote: So for US$1000, you could easily... Two of the cheapest plex buys is US$979 and nets 56 plex. Wisely spent to Mastery 3 or so per ship, you'd probably get close to every ship.
Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 47	Posted - 2016.02.16 20:36:10 - [6] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: I'm not saying some moron won't do it, but the majority of not stupid people will just buy the focused Merlin pilot off the Character Bazaar for a 10th of that. For under 1M sp, you can get level 3 in all these skills. New characters can be doing most of this and having fun with 1 month subscription. So yeah, this is not a good deal any way you slice it. edit: By the time you just do the tutorial, you're likely a better player and have what you need.
Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 49	Posted - 2016.02.17 16:19:52 - [7] - Quote Chopper Rollins wrote: Not sure how much you've played or how many breaks you've taken but you seem to be amazingly ignorant about some really important basics in this game. It is merely working out some details on costs. There have been a lot of claims on the forum that skill trading means people will just buy their way to V in everything. I just wanted to see how much that'd cost. But you know what? You're quite petty and low to insult me over just showing some math. You might want to think about how such a rude response provides little benefit to anyone. And makes you look bad. And contributes to the disaster area this forum generally is... I'm not making a statement. I'm showing some research. Excoriating me shows your lack of character. Quote: Nobody will ever be able to buy enough SP to make that happen or make them aware of it happening. I'm glad we agree.
Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 49	Posted - 2016.02.17 16:21:35 - [8] - Quote I forgot to account for buying the skills. Not sure that's really going to add a lot...
Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 49	Posted - 2016.02.17 16:35:46 - [9] - Quote Nat Silverguard wrote: WTF is this mastery?! Show info on a ship. Look for the Mastery tab. It's really just a premise for the problem. Several have pointed out that it's not an ideal build. True enough I suppose... but for the exercise it is a simple enough metric, standard and reasonable. The most compelling observation so far is the idea that you could perhaps go to Mastery III in many ships for a smaller amount of real money. This wouldn't be pay to win, but you could unlock a lot of the game quickly. It's 30M to Mastery V. It's 1M to Mastery III. 28 plex is US$489.86. At 1.2B per plex, that's 33.6B isk. About 42-48 injectors? That's 18.2M sp. What can you skill into for 18.2M sp?
Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 49	Posted - 2016.02.17 20:23:19 - [10] - Quote Lady Ayeipsia wrote: This is not to say the math exercise is bad. It is a great example of the cost to achieve a CCP defined metric. Don't like the list? Propose another. Will it really be different in total skill points? By how much? Was it valid to pick a Merlin? I don't even fly them. It just seems a common popular ship. I could have picked a Dominix. Or a Drake. It's just an example to see how much real money you'd need to unlock a ship... Quote: However it also shows how having the skills alone on your character isn't enough to know what is going on. Agreed. This doesn't make you a good pilot.

Fa Xian Furious Timewasters 52	Posted - 2016.02.18 22:29:46 - [11] - Quote Iria Ahrens wrote: I don't know that I have mastery V on anything. Me either. It's not the point. The point was to pick some arbitrary pile of skills and look at the cost in dollars. This set is just an easily accessible set everyone can see in the game. Don't like it? Pick a different set.

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